Posts by Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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A brazen falsehood in this week's Watchtower study! (week of Feb 9 - 15, 2015)

by Island Man in

on page 13 of the december 15, 2014 watchtower (study edition), the first 2 sentences of paragraph 10 say:.

"the symbolic separating of fish does not refer to the final judgment during the great tribulation.

rather, it highlights what would happen during the last days of this wicked system.".

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Trifling over words.

Since WT has already stated (I think in the Revalation's Bland Climax book) that Bible "prophecies" can't be clearly understood until after their fulfillment, how are they even prophecies? It's easy now for all kinds of nuts to point out prophecies about 9/11, but where were those "prophets" on 9/10? Taking these rather obscure illustrations and turning them into ever-changing prophecies is such a waste of time and paper.

And who wants to be compared to a fish in this illustration? The unsuitable fish are throw in the fire and the fine fish are thrown in the frying pan. No promise of these JWfish getting set free to swim forever with their pandafish, eh?

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jw dot org! ha! Now check out the mormons website...

by stuckinarut2 in

jws go on about how wonderful the website is...blah blah..... check out the mormons version!.

now this is only one of their many official sites.. http://www.mormonchannel.org/.

http://www.mormonchannel.org/watch/series/bible-videos/laborers-in-the-vineyard-1 .

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Now this is only ONE of their many official sites.

It has a much more appealing look than the JW website. I wonder how many official sites they have?

I googled "mormon" and found that they have plenty of anti-mormon sites that come up on the first page, just like the JWs.

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New Caleb video uses fearmongering on children

by Jonathan Drake in

jw
friends

check it out.

literally the message is if you don't pay attention at the meetings you could die.

how insane, i feel like this must wake some people up..

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Yes, it's so life-saving for children to carefully listen and draw appropriate pictures when the meeting covers subjects like circumcision and mass murder.

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I Thought we had Friends!

by Kelley959 in

i am a life long jw, but this issue i'm going through has taken the cake.. i am in a job situation that is not good.

and we were promised to us in our old hall that we would have a roof over our head for us an our animals.

so i gave notice on thursday then went to call by so-called jw friends and they backed out and claimed he now couldn't let us move in and broke the deal.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

WT promised that my grandparents would never grow old or die, but they did. While there are many good people who are JWs, they live in a culture that is huge on promises, but very short of delivery.

There are a lot of good "worldly" people. I hope you can surround yourself with some as you move on with your life.

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Stepping off?

by dugout in

jw
friends

an ex-bethelite (now an elder in a jersey congo usa) called me the other day and opened up to me about wanting to step down, mainly because he thought he was being a bit overwhelmed.

he mentioned that he spoke to the co about it and some of the socalled friends in the congo .

they put him on this guilt trip.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

I myself was a elder for 13yrs before I stepped off. never been happier.

Sounds like a good answer to me. I feel the same way.

The fact that he's overwhelmed and is thinking about stepping down is very strong indication that he needs a break. The fact that others start a guilt-trip is totally lame and selfish. If someone is sick or tired, who would start insulting them as "motivation"?

Jehovah supposedly promised that there would be plenty of people and resources to step up as needed. Is Jehovah so resource-poor and unappreciative that he has to continue making big demands from one person?

And Jesus' ministry only lasted 3.5 years. That's all. If he set the perfect example, no elder or pioneer should need to serve for longer than Jesus, right?

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Magazine Routes March KM

by Rattigan350 in

improving our skills in the ministrydeveloping a magazine route.

what does delivering magazines have to do with skills in a ministry?.

"many people who enjoy reading our magazines do not wish to study the bible with us.".

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Yep, I think that KM farticle has been recycled every few years.

They really shouldn't be called magazines anymore. I think "minizines" or "tractazines" is more appropriate.

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No... I wasn't mind controlled

by Zoos in

thou shalt not stay at a hotel that is not on the rooming list.

work prevented me from attending our assigned district (regional) convention so i arranged my schedule to attend in a different city/weekend.

i know that's not a problem, brothers and sisters do it all the time.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

To clear your conscience, you should book a room on the approved list this year, but not attend the WT crapvention.

Or you could attend and break some different rules, like:

Save lots of extra seats, then argue with the attendants when they try to take them.
Use more paper towels than you're supposed to.
Walk around the stadium talking to anyone or nobody, during the session.
And, of course, dress immodestly. Like for a dude, wear a short skirt that also shows lots of cleavage (as displayed by Benny Hill, below). And high heals that are an invitation to a fall and ensuing lawsuit.

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Joseph and Potiphar's wife

by StarTrekAngel in

what are the real reasons joseph refused to sleep with potiphar's wife?.

the watchtower and others teach that joseph refused to commit adultery.

specifically to the jws, we teach that joseph, somehow, knew that adultery was wrong, despite not having any specific rule or writing to teach him so.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

My opinion:

I think the story is written to portray women as morally inferior, not able to control their desires and urges.

And, she's Egyptian. The OT stories were written to portray other countries and cultures as immoral and displeasing to the "true" god.

Put those two together, particularly in light of the fact that the Egyptian civilization gave women far more rights than the Mosaic Law did, and a fable like this presents the "moral" that Egyptians, particularly their women, are sexually immoral, liars, and completely wicked people.

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Look at this fear mongering graphic from latest WT

by cappytan in

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Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Since there are no dates on this timeline, I think it's safe to assume that over-lapping generations are involved between each event.

The belief that Gog is some governments is pretty lame. Governments and the UN are already over-represented in lots of other beasts. With WT moving to an Internet-based religion, maybe Gog is actually a computer virus.

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About myself

by tamagotchi in

hi to anyone reading this, so i little bit about myself.

i'm 24 years old born-in, all my family are in, my father is an elder.

though i'm not fading as such i no longer believe jw.org is gods chosen organisation so you could say i'm mentally out.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Welcome!

I just have this empty feeling when I'm in the hall.

Yeah, I remember that feeling.